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tv   This Is America With Dennis Wholey  WHUT  February 20, 2011 9:00am-9:30am EST

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>> the united nations foundation, one of its primary concerns is children's health around the world. paint a picture. >> we look for a number of opportunities where we can make a difference as a relatively small foundation. and we look at, for example, the great big guys like gates. they have so much that they can really have a huge impact. you have to wage in. measles is one of those things. we looked at measles and found out that i never cut it was the biggest killer of children. and it turned out that there was a vaccine that was coming on to the market. we talked to the world health organization and the center for disease control and red cross and red got interested, so we
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began this program for vaccinations for kids for measles. it has been wildly successful. we have broken the back of measles in africa, and now moving to india. for a bunch of people like us, it is just a few million dollars, compared to a great big dollops of money that goes into this. it was highly leveraged, a very effective, very interesting. now we're using the platform. it is even better. we're using the platform for measles for doing vitamin a for kids. now there's a lot of thought about using this platform for other interventions on behalf of children. people are very eager to have their kids immunized. and if you can do that and bring the kids in, then use that for a number of other things. it is really great and satisfying. >> what does a vaccination cost? >> it depends on the volume in which to get it. you negotiate with the
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manufacturers. literally pennies. it is the delivery system that becomes the problem. one of the problems is that all over a lot of the world, the health care delivery systems are having some very difficult times. they're challenged. the nurses in malawi moved to zimbabwe. the ones in the zimbabwe moved to south africa. the ones in south africa moved to london. so you get a hollowing out of a lot of health care systems. they have to start to look at other interventions. what can you do it. losing a lot of the professionals? a lot of these countries are having a very significant political problems. how do you then redesign the system? gates has created -- a big aids foundation, and we're fortunate to do a lot of work for them. -- a the gates foundation. >> when you say we're losing the health care professionals, why
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is that? >> of the nurses go up the line. >> so this country to country. >> you go from a ball to aa majoro aa ball took leagues. they go to other countries. they do a lot of training of the nurses. and they leave. the health-care system its hollowed out. we have to think about that in different ways. one of the things we spend a lot of time on and i think they're making progress on is how to use the new technology and how to use, say, hand held technology, how to use mobile phones, which are becoming like the new computer the 21st century. how do you used that technology to deliver medical care? well, the first thing that became clear that we could do was to use it for health care surveillance. you cannot do public health and
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misinformation about what is going on there. and if you can get people trained a little bit to go out on a hand-held device and they can figure how to plug in with the conditions are in a particular area and very accurately collect information, you can do health surveillance without having a lot of health professionals. >> dimension data and india. are those the two areas where the united foundation is heavily focused? >> we are heavily focused there. we started very focused on polio. when we were kids, polio was a big problem. most people in the u.s. think polio is gone. it is gone from almost everywhere. >> that you reduced that. >> way down. >> from 30 countries down to like four countries. >> it is in northern nigeria, a rural afghanistan and pakistan, all, by the way, muslim countries. so we're trying to get involved in this effort. >> is there resistance?
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>> it is the toughest area. imagine trying to go to the rural areas of afghanistan or to go to afghanistan at all or go inthe northwest province sincs pakistan. that is tough. their pockets of rural india the very, very conservative populations. >> progress in polio and measles. how about malaria? >> we have a wonderful program called nothing but nets, bed n et deliver it. >> how many? >> i think the demand overall is -- it was the equivalent of 11,000 containers. you know, those huge containers on ships? we had to distribute in africa at the equivalent of 11,000 containers. you can put a lot of bed nets in
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the container. >> hundreds of thousands, millions. >> tens of millions. >> and those are necessary. >> well, it is the best prevention against malaria. it is the best intervention. we figured out that bed nets can be made -- lasting, over a long time span, and they can be impregnated with the right things that resist mosquitos. that was a big technological breakthrough. we launched a program called nothing but nets, which means we're working with the nba in all kinds of professional groups in the u.s.a. in launching these partnerships in cities all across the country and have big campaigns for people to get engaged and help the world get engaged, get involved, said a lot, by in net. $10 for a bed net. it has been very successful. >> and it gives people the opportunity to get involved. we're talking with tim worth.
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fascinating background. he is not currently president of the u.n. foundation, united nations foundation. also, he is a former senator from palo alto, a great environmentalist. lots to talk about. sit tight. on the other side, we will learn a little bit about the history of the u.n. foundation and how it came into being. sit tight. "this is america." "this is america" -- brought to you by -- hyndai motor company -- the national education association, he the nation's largest advocate for children and public education. the league of arab states,
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representing 350 million people in 22 member countries. hithe rotondaro family trust, te ctc foundation, and the american life tv network. >> i always kind of paraphrase it as if a person comes down from outer space, you have to be the went to tell them exactly .hat the u.n. foundation is i or you have to go in for the sixth grade class until the but how do you explain it? >> most people know what the u.n. is that it is the indispensable institution that brings people from all over the country together to solve the world's toughest problems. things do not end up at the u.n. that they can get salt someplace else. the worst health care problems,
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the worst violence problems, the worst political problems, the worst nuclear arms problems, the worst climate change problems all end up on the u.n.'s doors that. and it is indispensable, because there's nobody else who is given these sets of issues by member states to take on and say, can you solve these problems? the u.n. is the court of last resort. it is indispensable. as the foundation, our job is to try to help the u.n. we're trying to help on the toughest problems there. where do we come from? ted turner, who is the greatest visionary in the country, in my book. turner is one of the great ones. >> cnn. >> and the first guy to use satellites for transmitting cable signals. he really built the cable-tv industry. a remarkable human being. he has a great vision. he said, who has done the most good? it was the least bank? were the greatest problems? well, it is the u.n.
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ted made a lot of money on aol and non in the old time warner and on his cable television, so he made this commitment of $1 billion. he called me up one afternoon and said, how would you like to take on a the u.n. foundation? and i said, well, i will come down and talk to you about it. >> his original idea was not to fund the foundation, was it? >> the original idea was to pay off the debt to the u.n. the u.s. had gotten sloppy with the u.n. and had allowed a $1 billion debt to build up. it originally, what he would do was pay off the debt in then sue the congress for $1 billion and maybe make some money in the deal. >> that is funny. >> but it turned that you cannot see the congress. an individual cannot take care of the sovereign responsibilities of the country. so he established the foundation. >> so the foundation, if it has a mission and an organization,
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how does it function? >> our job is to strengthen the u.n. we work with causes. our board, which is a distinguished international board of people like nobel prize winners and kofi annan, it is a wonderful group of very, very experienced people. we said we would like to do three things. we cannot do everything, so let's try to do three things, all of which are prevention. we're going to work on children's health and women's reproductive health and population and work on the environment and climate change. and we would like you, they said to me, stay as upstream as possible. you know, defend against these things happening. once they occur, they become real problems that the government will have to deal with. so let's work on prevention, and that was children's health. let's see if we can work on prevention, and that is giving
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women a greater chance to be empowered and give them greater opportunities, make them also working on population, family- planning and related activities. >> gender equality. sexual health, as well. >> i hope we have a chance to talk about a new program we're starting for girls, which is really exciting. >> as long as we're in the territory, one of the statistics i read is that 1/8 of the world's population are girls and women from, i think, a 10 to 24. it is kind of amazing. >> we have what i think is now the largest child bearing tawdry moving into their childbearing years in world history. that age group is huge in much of the world. >> and under 25. >> it is extraordinary. our population is now -- when you and i were born, your the two billion person. do you remember that? you may not remember.
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you were never two billion. >> it was way back then. >> it was not very long ago. >> than 3 billion, four billion. >> now it is 6.5 billion. we are rapidly going to 9 billion or 10 billion. by 2015. we will be there. that is a major -- by 2050. we will be there. and it is a major issue. we have a lot of the immigration coming in. there are huge population pressures that are built up coming from central america and mexico. and very significant population issues. one of the reasons there is so much violence in parts of the world is to have lots and lots and lots of unemployed young men. you know, what do they do? that is a hotbed of problems. one of the issues is, how do you empower women so that they can do a better job in their own families and their own situation of making decisions for
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themselves about the size of their families and the spacing of their children? >> and is it not true that in some cultures, in some countries, women are the breadwinner's? >> women are the most important. if you look at the data, women are the most important economic -- one to give them a chance and give them access to a little bit of wear with all, they will save it and spend it on their families. then they will tend to got an -- men will tend to gamble it away or have a drink or two. they will be in a different place. >> but those micro loans the people can give a woman like $50 or $100. >> even less than that. >> and they can build a business. >> i saw it in jordan. >> a man on our board founded this business of micro credit and micro loans and micro enterprises. it is enormously important. people are thinking a lot about the recovery of haiti right now. the haitians are a fabulous
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culture, a remarkable group of people, great entrepreneur worse. and i think that a lot of the micro credit people are going to be going into haiti to help with the creation of a different kind of economic base among these amazing people who are the haitians. >> support of the mission is advocating and trying to strengthen the position of the united nations. >> we try to help them out. we try to help them tell their story, too. the u.n. in haiti has pulled together almost all of the emergency response. the u.s. and eu and have worked carefully together. and we have held them to tell the story. so that more people contribute, participate, and more people help. >> i have met with ban ki-moon a number of times. when he was foreign minister of south korea, and also as head of the united nations. i have great respect for him. very quiet, behind-the-scenes,
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working all the time. >> i have never met anybody who worked harder in my life, never. he has a great sense of humor. >> yes, he does. >> he is deeply dedicated. i think he finds the 24-hour news cycle a little bewildering, as you would do if you came out of a hierarchy 3, like the foreign ministry. thisnly you're engaged in communications world, and it is very hard for the u.n. >> is the united nations itself and the foundation, are they respected around the world? two of the same question is, has the united states paid them sufficient respect? >> it is a very good question to the mostly around the world the united nations is held in very high regard. >> good. >> and the reason for that is that it is the place where a
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very small nations can have their voice heard, where people know that the problems, the deepest problems are peacekeeping and the most difficult health problems, you go to the u.n. to solve them. there on the ground. in the u.s. obviously is blessed and we do not have the kind of problems that affect the rest of the world. we look at the united nations largely as a political institution that can help with political issues like iraq and arms control. so the united states tends to view the u.n. more through a political lands. then it starts to get really complicated because to get partisan politics going in the united states. you get a lot of people who think the u.n. is all the world government or something like that, which of course it is not. and the black helicopters are coming and it is the u.n. so it is a lot of negative undertone that is a around the u.n. but overall, over the 60 years of its existence, the support for the u.n. and the u.s. has
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hovered around 60% to 65%, which is pretty good. any politician who had against in -- consistently as 60% to 65% approval rating would be doing very well. the u.n. has been in that band. it had a big dip during iraq or went president bush wanted the u.n. to join in the barack venture. the u.n. refused to do so. -- when president bush wanted the u.n. to join the barack venture. the u.s. refused to do so. there was an ugly confrontation. it was interesting, even the u.s.' best friends in this hemisphere, chile and mexico, were on the security council at voted no.fand both of course, now we know that the u.n. was right on weapons of mass destruction in iraq, and there were not any.
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but that was a tough time. polls one way down on the u.n., because the u.s. did not think the u.n. was helping them. that is what the government said. well, the u.n. turned out to be right, and the pulse of bounced back up again. >> be referred to the united nations foundation has a kind of smaller foundation or indicated that. and it is also kind of a sister organization called better world fund. what kind of a budget to do you play with? how many employees, and where are they? how do you form your partnerships? >> we're largely based in washington, because it was in washington that we had the problem because the u.s. had this big debt to the u.n. so we had to solve that problem. we had to lobby the hill. the u.n. cannot lobby, so we set up a sister organization called the better world campaign. it is a public charity, not a
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foundation. we are a public charity, which means we receive a lot of help from the outside world. it gives us the opportunity to be on capitol hill, talk to people on the hill. we have a big rig that does that, works very carefully with friends and with skeptics on the hill. we have all together a budget annually of summer between $130,000,000.100 $80 million a year. $30 million comes from mr. turner. the rest comes from government from other foundations, individuals. -- the budget annually is somewhere between $130 million a year and $180 million a year. we have citizens at a very supportive. we're going to start a campaign. the most vulnerable population is really adolescent girls. the had the toughest time with health, toughest time staying in school. their sense of status is typical. it is a very, very tough time. >> worldwide? >> it is true in the u.s. and everywhere in the world.
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a lot of it is biological. a lot of it is the status of girls is not as great. if you can keep girls in school, that is the single most important predictor of how that woman is going to live and what their life chances will be. it is a great predictor as to what their relationship with their children is going to be. it is terribly important. so we think that there's a possibility that across the world, and network can be established where girls can help other girls. >> that is exciting. >> and it is a big, big population group. there are a lot of big institutions, we think, that are involved with this. the health-care products. there are a lot of ngo's working on this. but can we link it together and get the situation were girls in the united states are relatively affluent and can help girls elsewhere in the world. it is called girl up program.
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we're excited about it. it is an opportunity to help girls. that is the most important thing. it helps everybody. and to get young women in the united states really engaged in what they can do to help their contemporaries all over the world. what can they do as citizens of the world? so we're very, very interested in this. >> terrific program, a terrific idea. i am fascinated with the thought that you come up with these partnerships. and i was reading about everything from gates, ford, and rockefeller foundations, and in all these companies like nike, vodaphone, and erikson, and of course, private donations from people. so you're into companies, foundations, and individuals. >> just like individuals, they know that we have a world that is getting smaller every day. remember that song when we were
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kids? the world is getting smaller every day. it is. and we're getting more and more involved in the world. citizens know and companies know and foundations that they have to get more involved. with all the philanthropy in the country, less than 2% goes out of the country. most states here in the home. but increasingly, philanthropy is living internationally. companies are moving globally. some of our best partners are international in nature like deutsche bank. here is a german financial institution is deeply engaged. nike.vodaphone is the largest telephone company in the world now. we have a very big partnership with them. >> technology is very important. >> a lot of these groups want to help. we are a catalyst, a broker to help them do so. can you make a partnership work? often, it is difficult for these companies to figure out how to deal with the government or to deal with the u.n., so we sort
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of help them figure out how to do it and make it easy for them to become involved, or for their employees to become involved. >> i know that the environment has always been important to you. and just in the minute or so we have left, tell me the controversy in what is happening in the area of global warming and the environment in the u.n. foundation. >> the biggest problem that our grandchildren prophase is a climate change. biggest problem our children or face, climate change. biggest problem you and i have to do today, work on climate change to our government and governments in general have a number one responsibility to protect their citizenry. this is the greatest threat over long-term time span. we know that from the science, no question about it. some governments have to get together and have to figure out how they're going to move us to a clean, low carbon economy, but less carbon up in the
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atmosphere, which we are treating as the big garbage dump. but less carbon into the oceans. it is making the oceans so acidified that we're going to lose our whole food base in the ocean, which would be a catastrophe. these problems are coming at us, and we know they're coming at us. you cannot deny the bid up the u.n. has to help. they are the overall effort -- you cannot deny this. the u.n. has to help. they have to step up to the plate with others aggressively. in the league has to be the united states of america. president obama has been a welcome change. we have a lot of governors who are really involved, republicans and democrats. schwarzenegger has been involved. >> for online video of all "this is america" programs, visit our website, "this is america" -- brought to you by -- hyndai motor company
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-- the national education association, the nation's largest advocate for children and public education. the league of arab states, representing 350 million people in 22 member countries. the rotondaro family trust, the ctc foundation, and the american life tv network. captioned by the national captioning institute
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